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White Vinegar is THE Greener Cleaner! NOPE Debate – You Have To Read This

January 10, 2012 by Nellie Lee Luhrmann 5 Comments

I love a good debate 🙂 When I stumbled upon this article through a friends FB page I instantly thought of CraftGossip and HAD to share this. In a nut shell Louisa- The Eco Mum has written an article in regards to white vinegar in which she claims to not be getting a response ( after 3 separate attempts ) to her questions to major vinegar distilleries in regards to how they process their vinegar. After uncovering a whole lot of half truths about white vinegar and the fact that it is not “Green” or “Safe” for use in the home or consumption, Louisa then goes on to explain that in some instances white vinegar is made in a lab under the known  name of food grade “Acetic Acid”  ……… Now I didn’t major in chemistry so I have no idea what to think about this debate, I did however check the 2 white vinegars I had in my pantry so I am confused as none of them had anything but “brewed from fermented spirit” on the labels. Below is an excerpt from her blog

“Well, my research obsessed Bloodhound’s nose sniffed around a bit on this one. I wanted to know how white vinegar was made so I could stop buying it in plastic containers & make my own. I was trying to do the right thing… honestly… but then…
… I uncovered a whole lot of half truthes about white vinegar and it appears that its FAR from being green. In fact, seems to be the whole process of creation to use is pretty UN-green.

Here’s why:

White vinegar, in some instances (most cheap stuff I’ve seen) is also known as food grade “acetic acid”. 

Full strength acetic acid is actually highly corrosive & the full on rubber gloves need to be worn when handling it in a lab. So its pretty full on stuff to be watering down and eating on our fish. 

White vinegar that is food grade acetic acid is generally made in a lab – as far as I can find out. Its not naturally occurring, doesn’t appear to be made in a distillery or brewery (like white wine vinegar or apple cider vinegar unless it says “distilled” on the label). Looks to me like its made in a petrie dish…. … in a science lab. Not all countries in the world approve this – but USA, EU & Australia do. They think its ok for us to EAT synthetically created chemicals, apparently. Personally, I am not down with that – at all.”

 

Now I am not saying she is right, wrong or an “alarmist” as many others are saying. What I am saying is I found this debate very interesting and even though at times I was a tad confused I had the need to share  it with you all.

 

What do you think? Click HERE to read the full article and at time of this post being published the 95 comments

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  1. Baroque Mongoose says

    January 11, 2012 at 2:52 am

    Fact 1: acetic acid made by synthesis is identical to acetic acid found naturally in vinegar. It’s the same molecule. There is no way of telling the two apart. There is quite a large number of molecules which are found in nature and can be chemically synthesised. If the molecule is truly nature-identical, I normally have no problems eating it (although not in this case, but that’s because I don’t like vinegar).

    Fact 2: the fact that full-strength acetic acid is corrosive is not relevant. We don’t eat full-strength acetic acid. Full-strength hydrochloric acid is even more corrosive, and yet hydrochloric acid – obviously in a concentration we can tolerate – is found naturally in our stomachs.

    Producing a molecule synthetically may or may not be greener than producing it naturally. It depends very much on the process. Natural production of vinegar generates a lot of carbon dioxide from fermentation, so it is not actually very green. I don’t know whether or not commercial synthesis is any greener; it depends, among other things, on what materials they start from and how much energy has to be used in the process.

    Incidentally, in this country there is a convenient labelling system so you know exactly what you are getting. Only naturally derived vinegar can be called vinegar. The synthetic version has to be described as “non-brewed condiment”. The US might do well to adopt that system.

  2. Michele H says

    January 11, 2012 at 8:49 am

    Why the heck would you want to make your own vinegar in the first place?????
    Too much time on her hands?

  3. Heather says

    January 11, 2012 at 11:09 am

    Actually, my husband and I found this out, while researching azidocarbonimide, which is an additive in tons of bread products (yeah, you don’t want to eat THAT stuff, either!) White vinegar can actually be made with petroleum by-products, and often is, as it’s cheaper to produce than the naturally fermented, distilled variety. Same goes for “apple cider vinegar”- read the labels carefully, because most of the mass-produced stuff is actually apple cider *flavored* white acetic acid, toned down to 4% acid strength by volume. This is not our grandma’s pickling vinegar, LOL! If you want the real stuff, look at natural food stores, or at least take a good hard at the labels.

  4. Jessica B says

    January 12, 2012 at 9:44 am

    As a chemist that still works in industry and tries to live a green life, including using white vinegar myself in cleaning products at home, I pulled out some research our company had to do to receive Green seal and Bio-preferred logos on our products. Yes it is true that white vinegar is basically a diluted food grade acetic acid. It mostly comes about as yeast to ferment the sugar into an ethanol (grain alcohol) and then the cheapest way to breakdown the ethanol into the acetic acid (vinegar) is by using a Acetobacterium (anaerobic, acetogenic bacterium from the tundra wetland soil of Polar Ural). the bacteria is considered green because it is a naturally occurring product. The yeast and sugar “should” be green as well unless the company is using something tricky. Just because it has scientific names to something does not make it un-safe, or not green. Science started off studying nature. Hope that helps.

  5. Klidell says

    January 12, 2012 at 8:49 pm

    My understanding is that, unless distilled like in winemaking, it is made from petroleum products like gasoline is. That is why it is best to read the lable and only buy distilled.

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DIY Witch’s Brew Gift Pack With 3 Handmade Bath And Body Treats

Halloween gifts do not have to involve another bucket of sweets, plastic spiders or tiny toys that mysteriously appear under the sofa until Easter. This DIY Witch’s Brew Gift Pack contains three handmade bath and body treats designed for a properly relaxing night in.

Inside the cauldron, you will find:

  • Witch’s Brew Sugar Scrub for smoothing dry skin
  • Spellbound Bath Salts for tired feet and aching bodies
  • Witch’s Kiss Lip Balm for dry autumn lips

The three recipes are beginner-friendly, inexpensive to make in batches and small enough to tuck inside a miniature plastic cauldron. It is a lovely non-candy Halloween gift for friends, teachers, neighbours, teenagers, coworkers or anyone who deserves a little seasonal pampering.

You could also make several at once for Halloween party favours, craft stalls or “you’ve been booed” doorstep surprises.

Why This Halloween Gift Pack Is Actually Useful

I love a themed gift, but I love it even more when the recipient can genuinely use what is inside.

Rather than filling this Halloween pamper basket with decorative potions that collect dust, each handmade item solves a familiar seasonal problem. The sugar scrub helps remove rough, flaky skin, the bath salts provide a soothing soak after a long day, and the lip balm protects lips that are beginning to feel the effects of cooler, drier weather.

They also share a coordinated orange-and-vanilla fragrance, so the finished set smells warm and seasonal without hitting the recipient over the head with an entire pumpkin spice cupboard.

For more spooky bath-time inspiration, take a look at these DIY Halloween bubble bars. Their black-and-orange swirls would make a fun fourth item if you are creating a larger Halloween hamper.

Supplies For The Complete Witch’s Brew Gift Set

Containers and Packaging

  • One miniature black plastic cauldron, small basket or gift box
  • One 4-ounce jar for the sugar scrub
  • One 4-ounce jar or resealable pouch for the bath salts
  • One small lip balm tin or lip balm tube
  • Black tissue paper or shredded paper
  • Ribbon, twine or Halloween baker’s twine
  • Printable or handwritten labels
  • Small wooden spoon, optional
  • Cellophane gift wrap, optional

Mini cosmetic jars, lip balm tins and small black cauldrons are readily available from craft suppliers and online marketplaces. A set of matching jars makes the gift look polished, although cleaned and completely dry recycled jars work perfectly well too. We are crafters; saving a good jar is practically part of the job description.

Bath And Body Ingredients

  • Granulated white sugar
  • Sweet almond oil, jojoba oil or fractionated coconut oil
  • Epsom salts
  • Fine sea salt
  • Baking soda
  • Beeswax pellets
  • Shea butter
  • Cosmetic-grade orange mica, optional
  • Skin-safe vanilla fragrance oil
  • Steam-distilled sweet orange essential oil or a skin-safe orange fragrance oil
  • Lip-safe vanilla or orange flavour oil
  • Vitamin E oil, optional

Only use colourants, fragrances and flavour oils specifically approved for cosmetic use. Craft glitter, candle fragrance and food flavouring do not belong in bath and body recipes, no matter how convincingly the label says “magical.”

Recipe One: Witch’s Brew Sugar Scrub

This orange-and-black Witch’s Brew Sugar Scrub gently exfoliates rough skin while the oil helps leave it feeling soft and moisturised.

You can keep the scrub orange, divide it into orange and black layers, or add just a tiny swirl of black mica for a bubbling-cauldron effect.

Ingredients

  • 1 cup granulated white sugar
  • 1/4 cup sweet almond oil, jojoba oil or fractionated coconut oil
  • 8 drops steam-distilled sweet orange essential oil
  • 4 drops skin-safe vanilla fragrance oil
  • 1/8 teaspoon cosmetic-grade orange mica, optional
  • A tiny pinch of cosmetic-grade black mica, optional

This quantity fills approximately two 4-ounce jars, depending on how firmly the scrub is packed.

Instructions

Place the sugar in a clean, dry mixing bowl.

Add the carrier oil gradually, stirring as you go. You may not need every last drop. The finished scrub should resemble damp sand and hold together when pressed without leaving a pool of oil in the bottom of the bowl.

Add the orange essential oil and vanilla fragrance oil. Mix thoroughly so the fragrance is evenly distributed.

Stir in the orange mica a tiny amount at a time.

For a black-and-orange cauldron effect, transfer a few spoonfuls of scrub to a second bowl and colour that portion with the smallest pinch of black mica. Alternate the two colours as you spoon the scrub into the jar.

Wipe the rim of the jar and secure the lid tightly.

Add a label reading:

Witch’s Brew Body Polish
Massage gently onto damp skin, then rinse. Do not use on the face, irritated skin or freshly shaved skin. Take care, as oils may make the bath or shower slippery.

There is already a full Witch’s Brew Halloween body scrub on CraftGossip featuring activated charcoal and a darker, moodier fragrance blend. Use that version when you want your gift pack to look as though it has been scooped directly from a bubbling black cauldron.

Recipe Two: Spellbound Bath Salts

These simple Halloween bath salts are the relaxing part of the gift set. Epsom salts make them ideal for a long bath or foot soak after decorating the house, walking around a Halloween festival or following children from door to door while carrying everyone’s discarded costume accessories.

The baking soda softens the bath water, while fine sea salt adds texture to the blend.

Ingredients

  • 1 cup Epsom salts
  • 1/4 cup fine sea salt
  • 2 tablespoons baking soda
  • 8 drops steam-distilled sweet orange essential oil
  • 4 drops skin-safe vanilla fragrance oil
  • 1/8 teaspoon cosmetic-grade orange mica, optional
  • 1 teaspoon carrier oil or polysorbate 80, optional

This recipe fills approximately two 4-ounce jars.

Instructions

Combine the Epsom salts, fine sea salt and baking soda in a clean, dry bowl.

In a separate small dish, combine the fragrance with the carrier oil or polysorbate 80. This helps disperse the fragrance more evenly through the salts.

Drizzle the scented mixture over the dry ingredients while stirring continuously.

Add the orange mica sparingly and mix until the salts are evenly coloured. More colour is not necessarily better; you want Halloween bath water, not a permanently orange bathtub.

Spread the salts onto a tray lined with baking paper and leave them uncovered for several hours so any excess moisture can evaporate.

Transfer the completely dry salts to an airtight jar.

Add a label reading:

Spellbound Bath Salts
Add 1/4 to 1/2 cup to warm running bath water and stir to dissolve. For a foot soak, add 2 tablespoons to a basin of warm water. External use only.

You can also use black and orange layers inspired by these Halloween bath bombs from CraftBits. Just be conservative with dark colourants, particularly when gifting the salts to someone with a beautiful white bathtub and a low tolerance for scrubbing.

For a more crystal-like potion ingredient, the chunky bath gems tutorial can be adapted using purple, green or orange cosmetic colourants.

Recipe Three: Witch’s Kiss Lip Balm

This moisturising lip balm rounds out the gift pack and gives the recipient something they can use long after Halloween night.

Shea butter and sweet almond oil soften dry lips, while beeswax helps create a protective balm. A lip-safe flavour oil gives it a gentle orange-vanilla scent without using irritating spices such as cinnamon or clove.

Ingredients

  • 1 tablespoon beeswax pellets
  • 1 tablespoon shea butter
  • 1 tablespoon sweet almond oil or jojoba oil
  • 2 to 3 drops lip-safe vanilla or sweet orange flavour oil
  • 1 drop vitamin E oil, optional
  • A tiny pinch of lip-safe orange or burgundy mica, optional

This recipe makes approximately three small lip balm tins or tubes, depending on their size.

Instructions

Place the beeswax, shea butter and carrier oil in a heatproof pouring jug.

Set the jug in a small saucepan containing a few centimetres of gently simmering water. Make sure no water splashes into the balm mixture.

Stir occasionally until the ingredients have completely melted.

Remove the jug from the heat and allow the mixture to cool for about one minute.

Stir in the lip-safe flavour oil, vitamin E and lip-safe mica, if using.

Pour immediately into clean, dry lip balm tins or tubes.

Leave the containers uncovered until the balm has cooled and hardened completely. Add the lids once the balm is firm.

Label each container:

Witch’s Kiss Lip Balm
Apply to lips as needed. External use only.

Do not substitute ordinary fragrance oil or essential oil unless the supplier specifically states that it is lip-safe and provides an approved usage rate. Cinnamon and clove may smell gloriously Halloween-like, but they can be irritating on the lips and are best left in the spice cupboard.

How To Assemble The Witch’s Brew Gift Pack

Line a miniature black cauldron, basket or gift box with black, purple or orange tissue paper.

Place the three handmade bath and body products inside, with the labels facing forward. Nestle a small wooden spoon beside the scrub or bath salts if you have one.

Add a few decorative items around the jars. Good choices include:

  • A small artificial spider
  • Black paper bats
  • A sprig of dried lavender
  • Orange-and-black ribbon
  • A miniature broom
  • A handmade potion label
  • A battery-operated tea light

Keep loose glitter, plastic confetti and decorative botanicals outside the actual products. They may look pretty in photographs, but nobody wants to fish a plastic bat out of the bath drain.

Tie the entire gift in clear cellophane or place it inside a Halloween gift bag.

Printable-Style Gift Tag Wording

Use one of these messages on your handmade Halloween gift tag:

A Witch’s Brew Just For You
A scrub, a soak and a magical little balm for a spellbinding night of self-care.

You’ve Been Booed
No tricks here—just three handmade treats for a relaxing Halloween night.

Something Wickedly Relaxing This Way Comes
Brew a bath, polish your skin and seal it with a witch’s kiss.

For The Good Witch Who Does Everything
Take one bath, ignore the doorbell and allow no one to disturb you.

That last one may be less traditional, but possibly the most useful spell in the entire gift basket.

Halloween Fragrance Variations

Keep the fragrance blend consistent across the scrub and bath salts so the three products feel like a coordinated collection.

Pumpkin Cauldron

Use a skin-safe pumpkin fragrance oil with vanilla. Avoid adding ground cinnamon, nutmeg or cloves directly to products intended for the skin.

Enchanted Forest

Choose a skin-safe blend of cedarwood and steam-distilled sweet orange. Keep the total fragrance concentration within the supplier’s recommended usage rate.

Poison Apple

Use a skin-safe green apple fragrance oil with a little vanilla. Colour the scrub and salts pale green or purple.

Candy Cauldron

Choose a skin-safe candy or berry fragrance and use pink, purple and black packaging. This is particularly fun for teenagers, but label the products clearly so nobody mistakes the scrub for something edible.

Fragrance-Free Friendly Ghost

Leave out all fragrance and colour. Use white jars, ghost-shaped tags and black ribbon to maintain the Halloween theme. This is a thoughtful option when you do not know the recipient’s fragrance preferences.

 

How Long Will The Handmade Products Last?

When prepared with fresh ingredients and stored correctly:

  • The sugar scrub is best used within two to three months.
  • The dry bath salts can last six months or longer when kept completely dry.
  • The lip balm is generally best used within six months.

Discard any product that changes in colour, fragrance or texture.

Make It Into A Larger Halloween Pamper Basket

For a bigger Halloween spa gift, add a handmade washcloth, candle, eye mask or one of these spooky Halloween bath bombs.

A black washcloth tied with orange ribbon is both useful and inexpensive. You could also include fuzzy socks, herbal tea or a small packet of chocolates. After all, there is no rule saying a non-candy gift must be completely chocolate-free.

The finished Witch’s Brew Gift Pack is spooky enough for Halloween but practical enough that every item should actually be used. It is quick to assemble, easy to customise and ideal for making in batches when you need several affordable handmade Halloween gifts.

And, unlike most Halloween potions, this one is far more likely to result in soft skin and an early night than accidental transformation into a toad.

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